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WD40
11-10-2000, 07:14 PM
Can someone tell me what a Traceroute is used for? Im trying to make links two differant colors on my page how can i do this? I was going to use class="left" but then i seen that dosen't work in netscape :(

teck
11-10-2000, 08:06 PM
i dont know what traceroute has to do with the rest of your questions but:

Traceroute is a utility that records the route (the specific gateway computers at each hop) through the Internet between your computer and a specified destination computer. It also calculates and displays the amount of time each hop took. Traceroute is a handy tool both for understanding where problems are in the Internet network and for getting a detailed sense of the Internet itself. Another utility, Packet Internet or Inter-Network Groper, is often used prior to using traceroute to see whether a host is present on the network.
The traceroute utility comes included with a number of operating systems, including Windows 95/98/NT and UNIX-based operating systems (such as IBM's AIX/6000) or as part of a TCP/IP package. If your system doesn't include the utility, you can install it. There are freeware versions that you can download.

Here is an example of traceroute output In Windows, the hop times are shown before the gateway computer address.

How It Works
When you enter the traceroute command, the utility initiates the sending of a packet (using the Internet Control Message Protocol or ICMP), including in the packet a time limit value (known as the TTL, or "time to live") that is designed to be exceeded by the first router that receives it, which will return a Time Exceeded message. This enables traceroute to determine the time required for the hop to the first router. Increasing the time limit value, it resends the packet so that it will reach the second router in the path to the destination, which returns another Time Exceeded message, and so forth. Traceroute determines when the packet has reached the destination by including a port number that is outside the normal range. When it's received, a Port Unreachable message is returned, enabling traceroute to measure the time length of the final hop. As the tracerouting progresses, the records are displayed for you hop by hop. Actually, each hop is measured three times. (If you see an asterisk (*), this indicates a hop that exceeded some limit.)
If you have a Windows 95, 98, or NT operating system, try traceroute out by clicking on Start-->Programs-->MS-DOS Prompt, and then at the C:WINDOWS prompt, enter:

tracert http://www.microsoft.com

or whatever domain name for a destination host computer you want to enter. You can also enter the equivalent numeric form of the IP address.

Chicken
11-10-2000, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by WD40
Im trying to make links two differant colors on my page how can i do this? I was going to use class="left" but then i seen that dosen't work in netscape :(


I could tell you how, but goodness- why on earth would you want to do this? Confuse your visitors as much as possible? I don't think this is a good idea.

Greg
11-10-2000, 08:17 PM
Chicken, many times you will have atleast two different colors in your background....eg. if you have a blue background for your menu table and white background for the rest of your page, you might want blue links on the white background and white links on the blue background. If you had blue links for everything you couldn't see them in the menu.


The easiest way is to just put font tags inside your a tags....or you can do it with css:

Something like:

A:link {
text-decoration: none;
color: red;
}

A:visited {
text-decoration: none;
color: purple;
}

A:active {
text-decoration: none;
color: green;
}


A:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
color: blue;
}

A:external:link {
text-decoration: none;
color: red;
}

A:external:visited {
text-decoration: none;
color: purple;
}

A:external:active {
text-decoration: none;
color: green;
}


A:external:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
color: blue;
}


or put thm in separate classes to affect individual links, like :

A:link.red {
text-decoration: none;
color: red;
}


and class=red in your a tag.

WD40
11-10-2000, 09:01 PM
thanks Greg thats what i wanted :)

Traceroute

when i do one on hosting4less.com why does it go through
p4-7-2-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net

whats the verio.net? Isnt that another host

Deb Suran
11-10-2000, 09:27 PM
Verio is a sort of super-company made up of ISPs and hosts they've purchased. Because they're so big they have a network you spend some time in before you get to the final box. I'm hosted with a Verio company: GSP, which is a reseller for iServer, which is part of the Verio network and has servers located in their Orem, Utah, facility. Run traceroute on mimf.com and you'll see that you enter their network some time before you get to the Orem facility (look for "oremut" in the trace).

Chicken
11-10-2000, 09:38 PM
Sorrrry WD40... yes, that would be one VERY good reason to have different link colors. Man, I feel slow today. Ohh, well, my apologies for me being so dim at the moment.

*takes brain out and washes it off*

WD40
11-10-2000, 10:51 PM
thats okayChicken :)

Greg the tag class= does not work in netscape 4.7 for me it just ignores it can you please give me another example? i still dont get it.

teck
11-10-2000, 11:00 PM
i guess what i posted didn't help :(

Greg
11-10-2000, 11:02 PM
I think you might have problems with navigator and css...but did you put the css in it's own file and link to it with the:

link rel=stylesheet href="style.css" type="text/css"

or put the style right in the html page with style tags?



Like I said before, the way without headaches would be to just put font tags in the a tags, it's very hard to make html pages with css and have it look the same in both browsers.

WD40
11-11-2000, 01:00 AM
teck you answered my question completely thanks! I know what that's for now.

Greg i put the style on the html page itself. I don't understand what you mean buy "put font tags in the a tags"?
<a href="www.where.com"><font color="#FF3300">Where</font></a>

is that what you mean the link shows up then but it dosen't do the hover effect.

Chicken
11-11-2000, 02:50 AM
Yeah, that'll get you link color, not hover. Cross bowser is gonna kill you on this one for what you are trying to do (I think).

etLux
11-11-2000, 03:23 AM
Just for the record, dynamic assignment of colors via CSS (e.g., hover) to a link does not work in Netscape.