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    What Would You Do?

    What would you do if somenoe was shutting something off (an example your server) of yours just to steal your customers? What would you do?
    Last edited by TimPD; 07-06-2002 at 01:44 AM.
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    Shutting something off? I don't quite understand. Can you elaborate?
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    How can somebody from outside, not having access, shut down your server? As InterServ-JB mentioned, I think you need to elaborate a bit more on situation..
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    Maybe he leases it somewhere and then he places clients onto it? And the company that he is leasing off has threatened to switch off the server
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    That is an example yea. Threats to switch off the server and will only turn it back on if the clients move to them for an example.
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    [Edited] As Tim replied as I was posting and involved in a few too many chats.
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    Hey Tim,
    Ever hear the saying "what comes around, goes around". Try paying your bills. That should help.
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    SoftWareRevue!!! I thought Jay and I we scared you away.
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    Ya did. I just stopped in for a few. But, ya gotta admit . . . . . . that thread got pretty sppoky.
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    What thread? Send me a message on ICQ with it .
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    That was pretty weird.
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    Yes, It was LOL.
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    Well Paradise Designs..I would come up with this elaborate story to rat out the evil COMPANY!!

    This would be some written creatively so it would appeal to...oh to High School Sophmores (age 16 or so...)

    I would make a story.... ...that... that would be as though to make it look like I (Paradise Designs) was having a casual converation with you (Cobalt Connection) about hosting...then questions about recent negative posts in wht came up... then I (Paradise Designs) would explain the problem I had with XXX company trying to steal my customers...then at the end I would pretend as though I didn't want you to post the conversation, as though to make it look like I did not accuse XXX company if indeed XXX company did not cheat me (Paradise Designs).



    ***The preceding story should not be taken seriously.... ...I'm not accusing anyone of anything, its just a story ...all names are fake..any relation to anything real life is completely coincidental...***

    CC: How's Business
    PD: Great
    PD: who am I speaking to?
    PD: DigitalXWEb?
    CC: Cobalt Connection man
    PD: ahh
    PD: yea
    PD: lol
    PD: we're starting to sell servers
    CC: thats cool..when are you starting up the colo?
    PD: and offer deals so you can buy a server with us on a credit
    PD: and expand the payme into 2-3 months if you colocate with us
    CC: ok..do you offer NOC discounts on CPanel?
    PD: Yes
    PD: $55 if you're in our dc
    CC: I haven't been to the forums in a while..any good deals goin on?
    PD: on dedicated?
    PD: yes
    PD: one this buying servers deal i'm working it out
    CC: yea
    PD: we're working with our provider
    PD: that provides our servers
    PD: I remember you wanting to do something like that?
    CC: whoa..someone doesn't like you too much DO NOT EVER BUY FROM PARADISE-DESIGNS.net
    PD: yea
    PD: some customers
    PD: formal
    PD: buy are you interested in something like this?
    PD: if so I will speed up on it
    CC: nah im good right now
    PD: Ok
    CC: where you finally decide on your last server?
    PD: http://uc.nine-one.net/ColbaltConnection/ WOW they really open up your ZIP file to anyone
    CC: I know
    PD: have you not got onto them about that?
    CC: damn..checking out the forums..
    CC: yea i dont really care, i got it for free..anyone that copies is gonna get flamed
    PD: lol
    PD: this month hasn't been great for us
    PD: as you see from wwht
    CC: yea looks like everyone pretty much hates you
    PD: na
    PD: just htis month has been a bad month
    PD: with our cpanel provider screwing us
    PD: and stuff
    CC: i read something about non payment
    PD: they screwed us
    PD: simply
    PD: if you knew the story you would know and agree
    CC: who did you go w/?
    PD: we was with PowerSurge
    PD: and now we're submitting for a partner noc again
    PD:
    CC: what did they do?
    PD: don't even ask
    PD: I don't want to talk about it they screwed us
    PD: and caused us a huge loss
    PD: of over $10k I believe it was
    CC: i bet..porobably would be good if you explained the situation in public..no one will trust you
    PD: haven't totallyed of up
    CC: how old are you?
    PD: We don't reveal the age of our staff SOrry
    CC: haha..they are gonna call your parents dude
    PD: yea right
    CC: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...radise+designs
    PD: They're joking
    CC: haha..it says they talked to you and it sounded like a kid..there making fun of you
    PD: it was a joke lol
    CC: haha, im reading it right now..what a loser
    PD: who me?
    CC: i bet your getting pretty pissed right now..but you have to pretend like your old..so you can't backlash at me and cuss like your 16 year old mind wants to
    PD: lol
    PD: are you trying to insult me and say i'm 16?
    CC: haha me too..sucks 4 u
    CC: I was iniformed by a reliable source that Paradise Designs was turned off for non-payment. Thanks to Daniel at Effect Online for getting us turned back on
    PD: Don't repeat any of those I have been though that topic
    CC: how many posts are we going to have about Tim and Paradise Design??

    There seems to be a lot lately..

    haha...
    CC: I'm going to have to agree. It's problem after problem and just everytime it is money wise. I think his company is in the failing stages.

    i could probably help you out with credit..
    PD: what you mean help us out?
    CC: you need funding?
    PD: anyone would liek funding LOL
    PD: investors are always nice:-D
    CC: what is estimated yearly revenue currently?
    PD: can you invest
    PD: would have to look it up
    PD: more than 50k
    CC: ok..i would be willing to invest 75k over the next 6 months
    PD: how soon would you want it back/
    PD: or what % or what
    CC: next 5 years..20% interest year
    PD: let me talk to my partner
    PD: I will let ya know
    CC: alright..before i do though..id like more information what went wrong
    PD: how would you go about the investor?
    PD: investment
    PD: what send on?
    CC: wire transfer..
    PD: went?
    PD: what went on with cpanel?
    PD: PowerSurge refused to take our payment and kicked us out
    CC: why?
    PD: cause they wanted to shut our license off
    PD: and still our customers
    PD: steal
    CC: steal?..damn..
    PD: and they did a good job of it
    CC: does anyone else know?
    PD: yes a few people
    PD: I'm not bringing it up at WHT
    CC: alright, ill make a post about it
    PD: and I don't want anyone else that knokws
    PD: No don't
    PD: that is why I didn't tell anone
    PD: hardly
    CC: yea I will..it needs to be told
    PD: only people I trusted the most
    PD: dude don't
    CC: why not?
    PD: If I kown that I wouldn't have told you
    CC: why?
    PD: cause
    PD: when powersurge sees a lawsuit coming they iwll know
    PD: so keep it hush
    CC: ??..im gonna post now
    PD: don't
    CC: why would i need to keep it hush?
    PD: you don't want make me angry
    PD: our self and myself and my partner have been angry all month
    PD: and the last I need is that post
    PD: when we choose to make it we will
    CC: im sorry, ill have to make the post..it needs to be known that company is bad to stop others from going there
    PD: well don't say who they did
    PD: don't mention our company
    CC: why not? ...
    PD: i'm not saying they did it just to steal customers i'm saying from our point of view
    PD: God I made a mistake telling you
    CC: oh..
    PD: I'm saying the way we look at it
    CC: i don't understand..why else would they have shut you off?
    PD: They didn't accept payment and shut our license off and forced us to send them a money order
    PD: and kicked us out of there services
    CC: thought they didn't accept payment?
    PD: no
    PD: they didn't
    PD: not via credit car
    PD: card
    CC: oh..was it maxed or something?
    PD: they tried one and one was declined and they didn't bother to try the other
    PD: when I talk to you all information is kept private
    PD: meaning please keep all info private that is mentioned
    CC: why?
    PD: was you being serious about investing or doing it just to get this info from me?
    PD: honestly
    CC: im doing it so i can get this conversation out of you to post on WHT
    PD: so you're not going to invest?
    CC: no, im going to post everything you just said
    PD: and screw our reputation up
    PD: ok, see ya.
    CC: why would it? ..everything you told me was true
    PD: I ask you not to post anything and you're
    PD: so therefore, I wish not to talk to you. When we ask info to be kept private we mean it
    CC: why do you mean it?
    PD: because we don't wish to reveal anything until we settle with powersurge
    PD: when things are settled
    PD: I will post it
    CC: ahh..when will that be done?
    PD: very soon
    CC: ok, ill keep the convo and post it in 4 days
    PD: dude
    PD: it will take logner then 4 days
    PD: the guy is on vacation
    CC: haha..seems like there would be more than one person at powersurge
    PD: yes
    PD: but the guy I have to deal with about it
    CC: prob all on vacation tho
    PD: is not there and is on vacation
    PD: Please don't post anything that I discuss with you on WHT
    PD: We will post it when things are settled and ready to hit the smack
    CC: seems like if you were losing 10k from them they could find someone else to help you..
    PD: I''m not sure if it is exactly 10k I would have to total it up
    PD: so please
    PD: as I said
    CC: but still..if you think its that much..prob at least 4-5k
    PD: you agree not to post anything until we post it?
    CC: no
    PD: why?
    PD: man, why are you trying to screw me over like this?
    CC: because everyone should know they are cheats..why would you want other companies to fail?
    PD: You're REALLY going to get things worse if you post any thing I said
    PD: I know for a fact
    PD: and then you will most likely make us llose more than just what we lost now
    CC: how?!?
    PD: Because
    PD: YOu don't know half the story yet
    CC: oh, well tell me otherwise ill need to post this tonight..i know people going w/powersurge
    PD: I'm making apost about what would people do if someone was doing it
    PD: so please don't post anything
    CC: ???

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    PD: i made poist of what would someone do if it happened
    PD: PLEASE don't make a post about it on WHT of what happen.
    CC: gimme thread..i don't know what your talking about
    PD: if you post anything I will report it to a and have them remove it
    PD: http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...threadid=59125
    PD: at this point in time I wish not for it to be posted it is just my point of view
    CC: alright..well i want to see if they will remove it..since its free speech and im doing nothing wrong
    PD: yes you're
    PD: you're breaking my privacy rule
    PD: when I ask for it not to be revealed
    CC: show me..
    PD: dude please
    PD: I'm asking you
    PD: don't
    CC: no show me..and i wont
    PD: let us settle us with them and then I will post it
    CC: haha..just show me privacy rule adn i wont
    PD: http://webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s...on=forum-rules
    PD: It is by law
    PD: it doesn't have to be at WHT
    CC: I told you a long time ago i was making this post
    PD: Don't
    PD: If you do it will make things worse and I will throw a lawsuit on you
    PD: for damages
    CC: ok..will do..i told you a long time ago i was posting
    PD: God I can't believe you're doing this to me
    PD: posting what I think
    CC: What you think???
    CC: im just posting my conversation man..they will understand
    CC: im like an interviewer ..but im posting my whole convo
    PD: this is just great
    PD: ONT
    PD: Bye
    CC: bedtime?
    PD: no
    PD: I wish to not speak to you
    CC: go in your room and get your magic amulet..that will help in the process...
    CC: can I respond to your post?
    PD: not with this convo
    PD: and who no
    PD: you can post what you would do
    CC: haha..thats what im doin
    PD: but later down the line you think you would be interested in doing that plan?
    CC: probably not
    PD: don't want to get anything from us or what?
    CC: not now..im making my wht post
    PD: on what you would do?
    CC: my reply to your post
    PD: or our conv?
    CC: its just my reply dude
    PD: Ok
    CC: hyst naje a post replying to it of "lol ", and it will be ok
    CC: ok ? seriously..just do that..and all of it will be ok..make that promise to me right now
    PD: it dpends on what you say
    PD: if you mention who what and show our convo
    PD: then I will be take it from there
    CC: Just reply how i said and it will be ok..and stop sending messages now or it will be screwed up..

    ****END STORY*****

    I hoped you enjoyed reading this FICTITIOUS story..and lets see if you follow my suggestion
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    LOL you're good at making up stories.
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    Originally posted by TimPD
    LOL you're good at making up stories.
    Heh.....

    and continuing..

    and to confirm

    check out the time between those posted ..and the time Tim responded...you telling me he read that in 1min??


    ***Seriously the end now***
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    Yep. I scrolled it and read it pretty fast...
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    heh ... yes you did...

    but seriously Timmy ...consider doing that...it would rat out the bad company ...

    doesn't everyone else agree that Timmy logically explaining the situation would allow us to see what companies are out to get us HOSTS!!

    Come on seriously folks..we need to know who's cheating companies!!!

    again..just a suggestion
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    Ah man, what a cool story!!

    MORE MORE!!!!
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    **Mods I wasn't going to because it was going to be out of thread...but he called for it..so now hes getting it!! ***

    Remember..complete fiction is what I write...if you want me to write fiction for YOUR WEBHOST! ..drop me a pm

    CC: haha..good stuff eh?
    PD: no
    PD: people still know
    CC: haha..but its funny
    PD: that I said that
    CC: dude..jsut say you didn't..i made it alright
    PD: lol
    PD: lol
    CC: haha..
    CC: seriously..if you read it..its very funny..cause it refers to itself as a post..but then says that none of its true...
    CC: wait for this next one..
    PD: what is it of?
    CC: haha..read it
    CC: screwed yourself over a lil on that one eh?

    **My post about the time**

    PD: lol
    CC: i dont think they will believe it tho
    CC: want me to remove it via edit.. or are you cool w/it?
    PD: I would rather you remove th whole post
    PD: you made
    CC: all 3?
    PD: Yes
    CC: why?
    PD: you ask me if I was cool with it
    CC: oh yea i did...lets see how people respond first
    PD: p
    CC: i may make a third installment..
    PD: cause you're insulting us
    CC: haha
    CC: oops..bad post..im editing
    PD: WTF
    CC: read it now
    PD: stop calling me timmy
    CC: i only called you timmy once...
    PD: lol
    CC: haha timmy boy...
    CC: timmy would be a good name for a failed web host company salve child

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    I was glued to my seat. although I've really got no idea what it's really all about.
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    Originally posted by chrisb
    Hey Tim,
    Ever hear the saying "what comes around, goes around". Try paying your bills. That should help.
    Ooooh that was harsh.
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    Originally posted by CobaltConn


    Heh.....

    and continuing..

    and to confirm

    check out the time between those posted ..and the time Tim responded...you telling me he read that in 1min??


    ***Seriously the end now***
    Maybe he is a speed reader?
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    This is hilarious. I am on the edge of my seat waiting for more of this fictitious story!

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