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    * data393 vs. bluehost vs. servage vs.....

    Hi

    can anybody here help me which host should i use ?

    i'm thinking of these 3.... any other will do also

    basically i wanna host a couple of domains ... one for the dating site, for a small community and one personal ...

    what i'm lookin for is a cheap, reliable and most important fast connection for taiwan audience.... 1 GB space will be more than enough(for now)

    i'm still kindof new to the hosting stuff... so i dunno if data393(VPS) and servage is the right thing for me ...

    i have seen alot positive comments for servage and bluehost but not much people talk about data393 VPS ...

    so i'm still stuck ... hope u guys can enlight me ... thx ~~

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    If your audience will be from Taiwan, i would suggest a local host.
    Your requirement are reasonable... You may find easy what you need.
    Try to search the offers here at WHT (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php) or google.
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    Data393, no doubts about it. I have more than 5 years of experience with them (since they were venturesonline), I can highly recommend them for sure.
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    For that price, I would advise LunarPages. Great plan, great team, great bonus gifts (some aren't even on their homepage, like $25 in Adwords and $50 in Yahoo SearchMarketing).

    Just those cover the price of your first year. I would buy just because of their software offer.
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    thank you nimonogi, jedito and affiliate7 for the recommendation.

    - i wouldnt want a localhost because it will all be in chinese ... by the way ... my audience wont be entirely from taiwan ... but i'm targetting south asia... and i'm afraid the community might grow fast ...

    i tried the free hosting ... and i got nearly 1k members in a couple of week... and then after a month... the free hosting was down ....

    data393 - i found the speed is awesome ... but the only thing that is holding me is that i'm afraid of the complication in VPS.

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    I would like to let you know that the support team of data393 is amazing, I can vouch on them when I recommend their services.

    I suggest you to contact to their sales team, if you want, you can email me at jorgec @ downtownhost.com and I'll provide you with the email address of somebody there who can help you to decide.
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    data393 - i found the speed is awesome ... but the only thing that is holding me is that i'm afraid of the complication in VPS.
    I do not think you need a VPS since you only require 1gb of space.

    Read http://ultracheaphosts.com, avoid web hosts offering 100's of gb space/bandwidth for under $10.

    What is your exact budget and bandwidth requirements?

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    I had a server rootkitted (ZK rootkit) by the VenturesOnline main administrative server, donkeykong.vosn.net. It resulted in 18 hours' downtime for my clients. Either their security is terrible, or they had granted untrustworthy employees access to their systems. When I told Data393 of the issue, I was asked, "is that bad?" The people I talked to had no idea what a rootkit was. Needless to say, enforcement of their own internal policies (immediate termination for logging into a remote/off-network server) were never enforced.

    The same people are employed at Data393 today. There is nothing which makes them any more trustworthy today than they were then. I wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot-pole.



    To the OP: If you are looking for a VPS, I have heard very good things about ServInt. Back when WHP screwed up the migration of Dinix clients, a lot of Dinix's clients moved to ServInt. I heard back from many of those folks who were very happy with how they were helped by ServInt. From what I have been told, the support is pretty start-to-finish. The techs are happy to answer even basic questions and the VPSs are actually fully managed (although you should double-check this). If I was going to get a VPS myself, I would probably go to ServInt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WN-Ali
    I do not think you need a VPS since you only require 1gb of space.

    Read http://ultracheaphosts.com, avoid web hosts offering 100's of gb space/bandwidth for under $10.

    What is your exact budget and bandwidth requirements?
    Too bad almost all web hosting nowdays oversell their servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumahweb
    Too bad almost all web hosting nowdays oversell their servers
    Well, actually they don't. There are a lot at the budget end of the market who do - and users need to be aware of the limitations and compromises needed on such hosts. But there are many hosts who would be able to give 1GB space at a reasonable price without overselling and with good support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumahweb
    Too bad almost all web hosting nowdays oversell their servers
    Yeah, that statement is completely false. There is a majority of web hosting providers that do NOT oversell their service. However, yes I will agree there is a stong number of providers that oversell but not nearly "almost all"
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    Hello,

    You can check that with the following link:

    http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/

    But you have to signup first so that you can use this functionality in a better manner.

    Thank you.

    Regards,

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    Jedito is spot on correct.

    It's not just a case of space and bandwidth but, more a case of server resources.

    fossil54 has already said he's getting very popular with members signing-up - so a shared server might suspend his services due to high usage of server resources.

    If his site trend continues sooner or later a VPS will be needed so I would tread that path now to save hassle later.

    VPS is alot easier than people think and support is usually quite high.

    A managed VPS is great as you (the customer) can concentrate on your site while the VPS provider does the donkey work of keeping the server up/running/secure

    If you get stuck fossil54 (and I doubt it) you can always use the providers support and or post here (in the correct sub-forum) - we'll be more than happy to help/advise

    Good luck and please keep us informed of your choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by EncoderZ
    It's not just a case of space and bandwidth but, more a case of server resources.

    fossil54 has already said he's getting very popular with members signing-up - so a shared server might suspend his services due to high usage of server resources.

    If his site trend continues sooner or later a VPS will be needed so I would tread that path now to save hassle later.
    This misconception has been thrashed out in a number of recent threads. A VPS is just a different way of splitting a server's resources. You can get just as big a share with a shared account. You just need to go with an appropriate host (and avoid the mega budget accounts). Anyone specialising in business grade hosting or application hosting would be worth talking to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dormouse
    This misconception has been thrashed out in a number of recent threads. A VPS is just a different way of splitting a server's resources. You can get just as big a share with a shared account. You just need to go with an appropriate host (and avoid the mega budget accounts). Anyone specialising in business grade hosting or application hosting would be worth talking to.
    I understand what you're saying but, I dis-agree

    The examples of shared hosts (eg: Servage) the OP gave these aren't 'business grade' or 'application' hosting - I'm posting in context of the OP post.

    Unless the shared hosting gives clear defined resource usage then it's hyperthetical.

    Obviously it's upto the OP which he chooses VPS (definded resources) or shared (un-defined resources) but, I'd prefer an educated choice as it saves having to move hosts later due to being suspended for using high server resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EncoderZ
    The examples of shared hosts (eg: Servage) the OP gave these aren't 'business grade' or 'application' hosting - I'm posting in context of the OP post.

    Unless the shared hosting gives clear defined resource usage then it's hyperthetical.
    It's correct that the OP only named budget hosts (with the exception of data393 who appear a bit out of place), but he was explicitly open to other suggestions. I was suggesting that he look at a different type of host but stick with a shared account.

    There is no need for an account ever to go through a VPS stage - some hosts will offer a very big shared account with a lot of support. The big downside of a VPS is that it needs to be much more actively managed than a shared account (and needs the knowledge and time to do it) - the upside is that there is greater freedom. If all you need is more size, then you can get it from a shared account. You don't need resource usage to be defined - you need a good, experienced host who offers good support and will make sure that your account will stay working and will help with any problems that occur. You will have to pay for what you get, but your payments will only increase as your site does, and the situation is in many ways less limiting than a VPS.

    It's just a question of choice and being aware of your needs and exactly what you are chosing to buy.

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    I (again) understand what you're saying but, the more your site grows the more demand on server resources the more chances the shared account will be suspended due to high server resource usage, unless your provider gives clearly defined resource usage allownace.

    Yes , you can find shared with high allowances but, how many give resource allowance details How much will this cost? ...etc.

    VPS you know your prices, allowances, comfort in the knowledge you aren't going to be suspended as your site uses too much resources. upgrade without any downtime or site suspension. High support ... etc. VPS removes the guess work.

    As you say (regarding shared) "your payments will only increase as your site does" but, this is good for space and bandwidth but, one has too look at the wider picture that is often over looked (server resources) hence why many post in this very forum say 'my site has been suspended' - often due to high server resource usage and mostly on shared accounts.

    You also have to take in to account that high end shared services can often be the same price of VPS.

    As you say "It's just a question of choice and being aware of your needs ... ".
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    Out of that list i would choose bluehost... I was with them for a while but then left when my business grew.

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